Dave Rubin of “The Rubin Report” talks to Andy Ngo about his new true crime book “The Zizians: Inside a Trans Death Cult”; his investigation into the Zizians, a radical fringe group linked to multiple murders and violent crimes across the United States; how the group emerged from Silicon Valley's rationalist and effective altruism communities; the disturbing beliefs of alleged cult leader Jack LaSota, also known as Ziz; the group's obsession with artificial intelligence, radical veganism, and transgender ideology; bizarre experiments involving sleep deprivation, brain hemispheres, and psychological manipulation; the suicides and alleged murders connected to the group; the brutal attack on California landlord Curtis Lind and his subsequent murder; the killing of a U.S. Border Patrol agent in Vermont; how members allegedly faked their deaths, evaded authorities, and exploited the legal system; his experiences reporting on Antifa violence in Portland and the attacks that forced him to leave the United States; his concerns about online radicalization, extremist networks, and the 764 cult; his criticism of media coverage of politically sensitive crimes; the dangers of cult recruitment and the devastating impact on victims and their families; and much more.
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